C5 Corvette Sway Bar Sizes & Leaf + Coilover Spring Rate Research Notes
Submitted by shredjesse on Mon, 11/07/2022 - 11:54
While researching coilovers and then subsequently researching why the QA1 coilovers understeered for me, I took a lot of notes on all of the various sway bar diameters along with various coilover spring rates. A lot of information I took from other folks and from various forum posts as many manufacturers don't list their specs for some reason, making it hard to compare just what you're getting. Below is my collated information from researching these things, make what you will of it!
Swaybars
Make | Front | Rear | Notes |
C5 Base Suspension | 23 mm-front | 19.1 mm-rear | 3.81mm/2.0mm thickness |
C5 Z51 (97-99) | 25.4 mm-front | 21.7 mm | |
C5 Z51 (00-04) | 28.6 mm-front | 23.6 mm-rear | 4.15mm/3mm thickness |
C5 Z06 | 30.0 mm-front | 23.6 mm-rear | 4.5mm/3.5mm thickness |
C6 Base | ?? mm Front | 22.0mm | |
C6 Z51 | 31 mm-front | 25.4 mm (1")-rear | |
C6 Z06 | 31mm front | 28.8mm rear | |
C5 Hotchkis | 31.75 mm-front | 25.4 mm-rear | 4mm/4mm thickness |
C5 Progress Swaybars | 35mm - Front | 25mm rear | 6.35/3.96 sidewall thickness 625#/inch Front 408 #/inch - Rear - Soft |
C5/C6 Addco | 32 mm-front | 25.4 mm-rear | |
C5/C6 Addco | 35 mm-front | 25.4 mm-rear | |
C5 Pfadt (Adjustables) | 32 mm-front | 26 mm-rear | |
C5 Pfadt - Pfatty | 35mm - front | 28.5mm rear | |
C5 T1 (GM Racing) | 38.4mm front | 27.5mm-rear | 6.35/6.34mm thickness |
C6 T1 (GM Racing) | 38.4mm front | 27.5mm rear | 6mm/?? Thickness |
Spec Corvette | 38.4mm front | 27.5mm rear | Exact same as C5 T1 supposedly |
AFE Control Sway bars (BLUE) & AFE Control Sway bars Johnny O'Connel(Yellow) | 35mm | 29mm | 465 #inch - Rear Soft 540 #inch - Rear Mid 625 #inch - Rear Hard Both sway bars are identical except for color according to AFE. |
aFe Control C5 Pfadt Adjustable Racing | 38mm | 31.75mm | CHONK but adjustable |
Strano Bars (Strano Performance) | 33.3mm / 6.35mm wall | 25.4mm / 4.77mm wall | Three way adjustable rears. |
LG Motorsports G1 sway bars | 1-9/16" - 39.6875mm | 1-1/16 - / 26.9875mm | Rears three way adjustable. |
Megan Racing (front) (rear) | 32mm | 19mm | These are the most mismatched sway bars I've seen to date. |
MTI Racing "Big Red" sway bars (Set) | TBD | TBD | Awaiting specs. |
Leaf Spring & Coilover Springs Rates
Make | Front | Rear | Notes |
Leaf Springs (NOTE: higher numbers to coils, but effective rate lower) | |||
C5 Z06 | 526# | 714# | Leaf Spring |
C6 Z06 | 531# | 728# | Leaf Spring |
C6 Z51 | 526# | 645# | Leaf Spring |
T1 C6 | 420# | 657# | Leaf Spring (?) |
T1 C5 | 582# | 793# | Leaf Spring (?) |
Hyperco HPS (Street) | 565# | 764# | 12405HPS / 12406HPS Leaf springs |
Hyperco HPT (Track/Solo | 625# | 850# | 12407HPT / 12408HPT |
VBP Sport | 990# | 650# | |
VBP Extreme | 1050# | 855# | Roughly equivelant to 404/446 lb coilover springs |
COILOVERS | |||
Spec Corvette Penske Shocks | 550# | 550# | Have yet to see a person say they wouldn't prefer stiffer springs in the rear when they discuss their spec corvette rates. |
QA1 Proma Stars | 450# | 450# | Street Strip Setup, |
QA1 Proma Stars | 550# | 550# | Track setup. Understeered with Progress sway bars |
QA1 proma stars (as I have them) | 550# | 650# | VERY balanced. Had to get custom springs from Eibach for 650 rear. |
QA1 Mod Series (med) (front) (rear) | 550 | 550 | 4 way adjustable |
QA1 Mod Series (firm) (front) (rear) | 700 | 700 | 4 way adjustable |
Feal 441 Coilovers | 1000# | 560# | Converted from KG/MM to LB/IN |
Aldan America (Default) | 550# | 550# | |
Aldan American (Extra springs) | 550# | 650# | Ships with extra springs for rear |
BC Coilovers | 391# | 559# | Convert from KG/MM to LB/IN. They have Street and track offerings, ALWAYS get track as they are spherical bearings and the "street" stuff just fails under even moderate usage. |
Silvers Neomax (Stock) | 672# | 447# | 12/8 - Stock car spring rates, "soft" per website. Converted from KG/MM to LB/IN Available in double adjustable. Available in lightweight aluminum bodies to save 5# per kit |
Silvers Neomax (All around) | 672# | 559# | 12/10 normal install for modified performance cars - Standard Convert from KG/MM to LB/IN. Available in lightweight aluminum bodies to save 5# per kit |
LG G2 | 700# | 700# | Per forum post, as provided by LG |
LG G2 | 650# | 550# | Per forum post, as provided by LG |
LG G2 | 650# | 600# | Per user from corvette track enthusiasts facebook group who streets/tracks LG coilovers. |
Viking Crusader Coilovers | 500# | 700# | Suggested track day spring rates with occasional street use. |
Fortune Auto (default) | 896# | 672# | Converted from metric. Per user feedback this oversteers with C6 Z06 swaybars. Rates can be customized, default values just listed here. |
Pfadt Feather Light / Pfadt Black Series | 460# | 600# | The Black Johnny O'Connell Series system does have its own "special tested aggressive valve code" per manufactuer. 28 clicks of single adjustment. |
Godspeed Maxx Coilovers | 672 | 560 | Appear to be Silvers, even with matching spring rates. Not sure if valved differently. |
Flatout Racing SR | ? | ? | Unable to ascertain exact spring rates. Two options for OEM or stiffer than OEM. Single adjustable. Awaiting manufacturer response on rates (emailed Oct 2023, not good) |
Flatout Racing CS | 450 | 900 | Single adjustable, remote reservoirs. Custom spring rates available for order. Highest rear rate of any offering thus far, likely big time oversteer. |
Penske Coilovers | 700 | 600 | Typical Penske Values per email |
Penske Coilovers | 700 | 750 | Some Penske vendors ship with this spring rate, per email. |
Penske Coilovers (Full Aero) | 750 | 750 | May vary as high as 850. Per email |
Moton Coilovers | TBD | TBD | Website link. Still awaiting some general information from them. |
General Notes On My Findings
- General ballpark balanced handling values to shoot for that I have seen.
- 350/450 for a street going car that is as aggresive as you should.
- 450/550 for an aggressive street and sporadically track going car.
- 550/650 for a primarily track. Still bearable enough on the street.
- To setup a car that prefers to understeer (safest on the street) or incase you have larger than average rear sway bars, reduce rear spring rate 50lbs.
- Article from grassroots motorsporst researching and testing coil vs leaf effective spring rates. (TLDR: Not a direct comparison between the two)
- Ultra informative post on measured rate vs stated rate of leaf springs versus coilover springs (TLDR: Extreme leafsprings about Match 500lb coilover springs)
- Differentiation in spring rates on front versus rear is due to leverage ratios. If you look at the rear control arms with a coilover in them versus the front, the front is more vertical, the rear is less vertical. Thus the rear of a C5 corvette will compress the rear coilovers more for the same amount of wheel travel requiring a higher spring rate to result in a similar effective rate and consequently better balance the car. With the near 50/50 weight distribution of these cars, you want similar effective rates.
- Spec Corvette runs balanced / square spring rates and compenste for it with huge rear sway bars run as stiff as possible supposedly. Reviewing sway bar sizing, that very much appears to be the case!
- Per conversation with a fellow who ran spec corvette for two years, he too wanted to run higher rear spring rates but instead was able to get the handling he wanted stiffening the spec corvette rear sway bars, which are already pretty thick per my findings above.
- I spoke with the gentleman who helped develop QA1's coilovers, and he ran 550/650 spring rates per his testing, and is what he recommended QA1 runs, Not sure why QA1 didn't follow that and instead went with 550 squared.
- QA1 does have a 700lb spring available they can send. Eibach of course makes 600lb and 650lb springs with a 2.25" ID. I recommend the Eibach 650 rear springs.
- Penske communicated to me with email, they recommended the rates above, but mostly vendors seem to sell their stuff and pick the rates based on the user need.